Monday, 23 November 2009

  • Portion Sizing for Chinese Meals: Possible or Impossible?

    Problem:
    Chinese meals (and a lot of other Asian meals in general) are eaten differently from western meals. With most western meals, you eat from one large plate and you don't share with others. You can use simple ratios (like filling your plate with 1/2 veggies, 1/4 meat, 1/4 grains) to balance your portion sizes.

    For Chinese meals however, each person eats rice out of a teeny weeny bowl! Dishes are shared and placed in the middle of the dinner table and you pick and take as you please. It's difficult to tell how much you have eaten because the food that disappears from the middle of the table is shared by everybody.

    chinese meal

    The only thing that is easy to determine is how much rice you eat because you have to get up and go to the rice cooker for seconds. This is how some Chinese people determine how much you eat. But in reality, compared to other people, some just eat more rice in relation to meat/veggies.

    Solution: Portion sizing is POSSIBLE! If you use these:

    measuring-cups
    Measuring cups and spoons

    Get to know your country's food guide (USA | Canada | Australia |UK) and what a normal portion size is for each food group. According to Eat Well Canada's Food Guide, a person of my age and gender (22, female) needs 6 servings of grain products per day. So I try to spread this out by eating 2 servings max at each meal. This equates to 1 cup of pasta/rice or 2 slices of bread.

    However, if I try to measure out 1 cup of rice from the rice cooker, my mom asks "What are you doing???" and my dad looks at me like I'm a freak. Well I'm a healthy freak!

    So to avoid awkwardness, I usually don't rip out the measuring cups when I'm with my family. It's a good idea though to measure food out initially and over time, you may get a sense or ball-park of how much you should be eating. Or find a bowl that you already know is around 250mL (1 cup).

    Another way to get a sense of portion sizes would be to use what God gave you:

    handy-portions

    Again, something to do subtley if you want to avoid strange and curious looks! In the case of my parents, they have lived so many decades a certain way so they sometimes have difficulty understanding new ways of thinking. Yes, food is a joy and part of our vibrant life and culture, but overeating has lead to an obesity epidemic and increase medical care costs.

    Try your best to portion size what you eat, otherwise Chinese meals kind of come out the same as an all-you-can-eat buffet. Perhaps you can try taking an extra empty bowl/plate and place separate portions for yourself in there, instead of constantly taking small pieces from the shared dishes. Before getting more food, assess your appetite and ask yourself: am I really still hungry? What is hunger and fullness anyway? There is a huge difference between satisfying your stomach and overstuffing it until you are uncomfortable.

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    Next Problem:
    The 10-course Chinese dinner. These are the more formal restaurants with large round tables that can fit 10-12 people. A large and grand dinner of about 10 (more or less) courses comes out slowly and it always ends with rice as the last dish so that you don't get too full in the middle! And then usually red bean soup for dessert, which I'm really not a big fan of.

    Traditional Chinese Dinner

    If you're like me, you may not have any say in what is ordered. You don't even know what is coming. You leave everything for the elders to decide because you cannot read the Chinese characters on the menu and even if it was in English, you wouldn't know what to order anyway because English names of Chinese meals don't make much sense. Ma po tofu?? Four treasures rice??

    With so many unknown courses coming and going, I find portion sizing at these kinds of restaurants IMPOSSIBLE. Again there are no individual plates for each person. You can't use the trick of just eating half your meal and taking home the rest like at western restaurants. Please DO NOT rip out the measuring cups here! You'll embarrass the family and/or strike-up concern that you have an eating disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, or you are just plain anal.

    My advice would be to just enjoy yourself. You don't eat at the restaurants every day do you? The best solution to balance your enjoyment with portion sizing would be just try a little bit or one sample of every dish. Trust me, more dishes will come. Lots more, so you can put your chopsticks down. And stock up as much as you can on the vegetables like broccoli or gai lan. (I'm sorry if this tip doesn't work for males, because I know that men require more calories and have way larger appetites than I do!) But you can't go wrong with stocking up on the veggies.

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    Next Problem:
    Chinese people just don't like brown rice. I cannot convince my traditional father to switch over from white rice. His thinking is that Chinese people have been eating white rice for thousands of years. That's just the way things have been and there have not been any problems. Rice is such a large staple in the Chinese diet. Brown rice also just tastes funny to him. It's not as smooth or sticky and it's difficult to pick up brown rice with chopsticks. I understand.

    brown rice

    However, brown rice contains much more vitamins and fiber than white rice. White rice is essentially brown rice, except the outer layer of bran (which contains all the vitamins and fiber) is stripped off to give you white rice. Fiber helps to lower your cholesterol and your risk for severe digestive conditions, type 2 diabetes, and much more.

    Whole grains and brown rice are very uncommon in Hong Kong. When I lived in HK in 2008, I could not find a single loaf of brown bread that listed whole grain wheat as its first ingredient. Those numerous and delicious bakeries contained breads very low in fiber. The Hong Kong diet, however, consists of a lot of fruits and vegetables and this may be where the population obtains most of its dietary fiber from. Tropical fruits are abundant year round and fruits are often eaten after dinner as a form of healthy dessert.

    I've never found a Chinese restaurant that serves brown rice as an option. I do eat brown rice at home and I will admit, it is not as delicious as white rice. But I swear that one can get used to the texture and it is definitely healthier anyway!

    A couple of tips to transition yourself into eating brown rice:

    • Start by mixing your rice and eating half white and half brown until you have transitioned yourself to 100% brown rice! Or you can stay with 50-50. It's better than nothing.
    • Not able to pick up brown rice with chopsticks? Spoon is a great invention too!

    I used to LOVE this food chain in Hong Kong called "QQ Rice":

    QQrice1

    I believe it originated from Taiwan and has other locations all around Asia. I used to call this shop: "Asia's version of Subway sandwiches". You can choose from a variety of healthy rice grains like red rice, wheat germ rice, brown rice, etc. as your base to make a rice ball (onigiri) and then you can choose your fillings. The shop even laid out the number of calories and amount of vitamins and fiber in certain rice balls -- I found caloric information to not be as common/standardized in Hong Kong than in North America. If you look in the comments section of this post, you'll find that somebody suggested a book called "Why the Chinese Don't Count Calories". I haven't had the chance to check it out, but it sounds very interesting!

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    One last issue:
    Sometimes when you eat with Chinese people, they may take food from the shared dishes in the middle and put it on YOUR plate/bowl. Even if you say you're stuffed, they'll still do it! It's just part of their culture to want to share food with you since it is such a joy and necessity in life. It's their way of showing politeness as they are afraid that you are not eating as much as you want to because you don't want to seem like a rude pig. The only way to really politely stop a Chinese person from placing more food on your plate that you don't want to eat... is to literally use your hands to block and shield your plate! And just say nicely that you really are stuffed.

    If somebody is doing this for you, it's a good thing though! It means they care about you!

Comments (36)

  • noree_n

    great post!


    my mom lovesss brown rice, but my dad hates it hahaha.  So she mixes the brown rice and the white rice together...

  • MomoLikesChoco

    i enjoyed reading this post a lot.


    i eat brown rice everyday and i can't really tell the difference from the white rice haha..

  • thekeyhole

    Wonderful post! I learned quite a bit. You sure know your stuff, Miss Health Queen (that's a good thing!)


    I look forward to reading another one of your fun and educational posts.

  • storyslut

    I don't care for brown rice either.  I feel guilty about that.

  • Manstration

    Very interesting. I hardly invest enough time into figuring out portion sizes.

  • SkaCha

    I love reading your posts, I had just never gotten around to commenting on anything until now.

    I love to eat brown rice, but my family only likes to eat white rice. I never have the opportunity to eat brown rice for myself since our rice cooker is always full of white rice.

  • anonymous

    I thought about it once... I figured that people need to use serving spoons that were measured out. Wouldn't it be nice to have serving utensils that look like regular spoons and ladles... but are actually measured?

    Then I thought about having chopsticks that could measure weight... standard sized bowls etc

    It's a pretty complex problem. Keep blogging! I like what I see!

  • benshee

    I have to say, if you're frying rice, brown rice is the best kind. It doesn't become sticky and each piece individually is wrapped in the flavours of the ingredients.

  • muriko_jai

    I'm gonna try the one cup of cooked rice ideal, since i find that I over eat the rice part...  Nice post.

  • yuk_lui

    never tried brown rice!
    the last issue is sooooo true! happens to me alllllll the time >_>

  • theHealthRabbit

    @SkaCha - It's so hard to convince people to switch huh? White rice is so traditional and ingrained in people's lifestyles! An option for you would be to purchase converted brown rice. This is microwavable rice and it's really fast. So while your family can eat white rice from the rice cooker, all you have to do is put in 1 cup of the converted brown rice with 1 cup of water in a bowl and microwave it for about 7 minutes. (depends on what brand you use)
    And thanks for leaving me a comment! I appreciate it~ But if you don't have time or anything it's no problem! I'm really bad at replying comments. I try not to worry about how many or what kind of comments/feedback I get, b/c it's pretty time-consuming.. as long as I reach people, that's all that matters :)

  • communitychannel

    More insight into the healthy Oriental cultures. Great post.

  • xfirelily

    hey nice post- really interesting to learn about the differences in western and oriental culture

  • alee

    Great information, but I want to bring to your attention a couple things from a different perspective.

    How necessary is it for people to eat brown rice or choose from the whole grain options?
    As you have mentioned, people might consume more fruit after a meal to increase the intake of fibre. And in most traditional Chinese homecooking, the dishes consist of mainly vegetables with small amount of meat and seafood. Adding the nutritious brown rice to all that fibre might be overkill. High fibre consumption can cause constipation if our body's not used to it.

    Cultural differences and the way people eat
    I'm not saying portion control is wrong. Calorie-counting and the nutritional knowledge we learn from school here are more like a western society thing. Food pyramid gives us a guideline to follow because processed food is
    so prevalent and there's vast amount of choices available in the super market. We end
    up with energy-dense but not nutrient dense food in our stomach.
    Developed countries share their research information, but for recommendations to be applicable, there has be some tweaking to cater to local dietary habits and varying food availability. Okinawa has this diet that is believed to give its people the longest lifespan around. Its people don't count each meal's calories, they just eat like how their ancestors ate.
    For some things, if it ain't broke, don't hafta fix it.

    At some point, I started questioning about what I read from all my textbooks. Health Canada and FDA do provide information for how we should eat. The audience is North Americans and whoever affected by America's food production. Reading books like "Why The Chinese don't count calories" and "The China Study" provide me with a different insight

    Don't mean to flame ya, just my two cents.
    Can't wait for your next entry =)

  • theHealthRabbit

    @alee - Hey thx for leaving me with those two book titles! the "Why The Chinese don't count calories" sounds really interesting. I'm going to check that out.
    No worries, I enjoyed reading your opinion/comment. Chinese culture is definitely very diverse. I'm pretty westernized in my thinking since I was born in Canada. But there are still tons of things that chinese believe in that I don't understand and don't learn in school. Kind of like that "hot and cold" property stuff. and herbal medicine!
    I recall tho, in my first yr nutrition course, there was a page that showed pictures of several different food guides around the world. There was a Chinese one, and it appeared in the shape of those traditional chinese house structures from way back. However, i never saw such a thing when I was living in HK. Saw a few advertisements emphasizing that people need so and so amount of vegetable/fruit portions per day.. but not much else. It just may not be a very popular thing over there.
    On the note of fiber intake, I find for myself, it's really difficult for me to reach 25g per day unless I consume beans or all-bran cereal. What about you? Do you find you're able to reach the RDA?
    Thanks again for the comment! I like to hear from the people who know their stuff :)

  • Nika_b
  • alee

    yeah. i was exposed to western practices for the majority of my life. the chinese way of cooking and herb use never interested me before until recently, so i'm just starting to learn about that.
    i don't think hk is a good reflection of chinese culture. it does have some of the elements, but its time being a british colony has transformed the city a lot. sad to say, hk follows the steps of other countries. it rarely shows that it has an identity of its own. food guideline's not too useful there because people often eat out. when one doesn't prepare the food oneself, he/she would go for taste as they aren't aware (or choose not to care) of the nutrients. i can blabber on about  the bad impression i have of hk. =P
    i reach 38g of fibre a day. i eat oatmeal, sandwich with lotsa veggie and whole wheat bread, apples, crispbreads, almonds. i go through a lot of vegetable a day. i do have a box of bran cereal in my room in case i get busy or too lazy to cook.
    i used to plan my meals around rdi and ai, but have stopped that cuz i don't want to think about nutrition all the time. i'm the kind of person that either doesn't do something or tend to overdo.

  • FoxFire12

       Cool! It's so fantastic to have such a culturally descript blogger on Xanga!


       P.S. That video below made me smile lots. :D

  • yelly

    @i_Nutrition - there is kind of a mini version of food guide for HK school lunch box.
    http://sc.eatsmart.gov.hk/gb/school.eatsmart.gov.hk/eng/template/index.asp?pid=6&id=43
    but overall, i don't think there's a HK version of the RDA, AMDR, so on so forth. although there is a book that is created by HK dietitians on the nutritional info on tons of common HK foods, even dimsum. too bad it's only in chinese.

  • sf2slc

    I love your analysis on this. Love those 10-course dinner during wedding receptions but I stop attending wedding. I hate dressing up and all weddings are so similiar. I just send people a gift and a card. :)  I guess i have been wedding-out.  I used to attend 3-4 wedding in a month during summer.  I am burnt out.


    The only wedding that i remembered was a short 15 minute one in a garden, where the bride and groom show up in a carriage. Most (and only memorable one).


    I think the 10-course banquet are like a 2500 calorie meal... and not to mention uber cholestrol.

  • SkaCha

    @i_Nutrition - Thank you so much for that tip on the converted brown rice! You are very informative, and I'm so glad you added the rice-to-water ratio too (I guess that's the typical ratio). My goal for the remainder of September is to find the time to actually go to the store to buy some. Hmm.. maybe I can actually convince my family to convert to brown rice? Wishful thinking.

  • prettyindecent

    Once again, phenomenal advice coupled with some cultural quirks that put life into perspective for us Americans!
    I intend to switch to brown rice, I was also told basmati and jasmine rices are both tasty and good for you too! Do you know anything about that? My family thinks whole grain pasta and brown rice are weird and gross, but I don't mind much. I feel good knowing I'm putting something good in my body!

  • theHealthRabbit

    @prettyindecent - I believe basmati and jasmine rice are still considered white rice. Take a look at this diagram in this link:
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_R_WKyx6_Pyk/SPXm6rX4NJI/AAAAAAAAAKs/kD1bxIbHMeQ/s320/brown+rice+diagram.jpg
    what happens with brown rice, is that the outer hull layer is removed. The bran and germ still remain, and these parts are full of nutrients and fibre! With white rice, everything is removed and u only get the white inside part, so that is why white rice is not as healthy. Some people find the bran & germ taste funny. And I completely agree that whole wheat can taste strange/different! But i believe you can get used to the taste as well. And it's just a choice between your taste buds and your health. I'm glad that you agree with health being an important factor in our food choices!


    Rice (white or brown) is still a terrific choice from the grain products group from the food pyramid. Some people (who don't eat brown rice) choose to get nutrients and fibre from other sources like lots of fruits and vegetables. I think that's how a lot of people in Hong Kong do it. Whole wheat bread and brown rice are very rare over there!

  • yunjoyceli

    So true. My parents and all asian adults always push me to eat more, even though I'll hurl if I eat one more bite. It is more about the traditions and customs than the actual food though.

  • sincerely_winnie

    I like brown rice, even though it's not as smooth. I can't tell the difference anyway, haha.

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